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Duchess Meghan Sits Down with Serena Williams for Her Debut Podcast Episode on Spotify

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  • Posted on 23rd Aug, 2022 13:47 PM
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The friends got candid about motherhood and living in the public eye.

Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, joined forces with friend Serena Williams to release the first episode of her long awaited Spotify podcast, Archetypes.

The 12-episode series, which will shed light on the tropes that women across generations have overcome, is the first part of her and Prince Harry's content partnership with the streaming giant.

In Archetypes's debut, Meghan and Williams spoke candidly about the struggles of living in the public eye, ambition, and motherhood. (Williams is mom to four-year-old Alexis Olympia, whom she shares with husband Alexis Ohanian. Meanwhile, Meghan and Harry share two kids: three-year-old Archie Harrison and one-year-old Lilibet Diana.)

Williams recalled an instance in which Olympia broke her wrist the day before she was set to play a match. "I was just basically devastated. Like, I literally couldn't think. I felt so guilty," she told the duchess. "Of course, it is the one day I was playing early. I remember holding her the whole night and just like rocking her to sleep and I just didn't let her out of my sight at that point because I was already and I'm hard on myself, and I’m a little bit of a perfectionist. But I was so mad at myself for even allowing that to happen. So I think I got like 30 minutes of sleep and then I had to go play this match. And I'm just thinking, how am I going to play? I somehow managed to win, but I was so emotionally spent and just like so emotionally drained that it was crazy."

Serena Williams with her daughter, Olympia.
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She added that moms are often expected to take on a lot, saying, "Moms do a lot. Like I look at my mom, I don't know how she had five kids. I don't know."

Meghan sympathized with her friend's story, relating by sharing a similar experience in which Archie's nursery caught on fire while her and Harry were on an official engagement in South Africa. Luckily, their nanny, Lauren, had removed Archie from the room before the fire ignited.

"Of course, as a mother, you go, Oh, my God, what? Everyone's in tears, everyone's shaken," the duchess said. "And what do we have to do? Go out and do another official engagement? I said, 'This doesn't make any sense.' I was like, 'Can you just tell people what happened?'And so much, I think, optically. The focus ends up being on how it looks instead of how it feels. And part of the humanizing and the breaking through of these labels and these archetypes and these boxes that we’re put into is having some understanding on the human moments behind the scenes that people might not have any awareness of and to give each other a break. Because we had to leave our baby. And even though we were being moved to another place afterwards, we still had to leave him and go do another official engagement."

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